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	<title>Comments on: The Totally Bogus Argument for Throttling Internet Services</title>
	<link>http://thewaronbullshit.com/2008/04/21/internet_throttling/</link>
	<description>Take No Prisoners</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://thewaronbullshit.com/2008/04/21/internet_throttling/#comment-2038</link>
		<author>Rick</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kavan - "You just cap users’ bandwidths or total downloads. I have no problem having to pay more to download 100 gigs per month than someone who downloads 10 gigs a month.

That's not how the service was/is marketed and sold. I was sold10M internet SPEED. No mention of VOLUME! Charging for volume brings up another whole sent of issues, but like you said, that's another topic.

'See, Bell owns the fiber network. It doesn’t make sense to have 25 competing ISPs, all with their own fiber networks."

When the the infrastructure starts to bulge at the seams and it's time to upgrade/expand, Bell is responsible for the upfront cost. The 25 competing ISPs will have an advantage of using a more robust network with the benefit of paying  as needed and over a period of time. That's one reason why FTTH isn't coming to my neighborhood anytime soon.

'When you pay for 5 mb/s interenet service, you should expect to get 5 mb/s, regardless of what you decide to download or when you decide to do it."

5M is just the best case scenario, and no you'll probably never get it, but there are many different reason for that  (beyond those you listed). I guess the could sell the service based on worst case scenarios, but then you would probably feel guilty when you surpassed expectations:)

All in all, I agree with your opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kavan - &#8220;You just cap users’ bandwidths or total downloads. I have no problem having to pay more to download 100 gigs per month than someone who downloads 10 gigs a month.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not how the service was/is marketed and sold. I was sold10M internet SPEED. No mention of VOLUME! Charging for volume brings up another whole sent of issues, but like you said, that&#8217;s another topic.</p>
<p>&#8216;See, Bell owns the fiber network. It doesn’t make sense to have 25 competing ISPs, all with their own fiber networks.&#8221;</p>
<p>When the the infrastructure starts to bulge at the seams and it&#8217;s time to upgrade/expand, Bell is responsible for the upfront cost. The 25 competing ISPs will have an advantage of using a more robust network with the benefit of paying  as needed and over a period of time. That&#8217;s one reason why FTTH isn&#8217;t coming to my neighborhood anytime soon.</p>
<p>&#8216;When you pay for 5 mb/s interenet service, you should expect to get 5 mb/s, regardless of what you decide to download or when you decide to do it.&#8221;</p>
<p>5M is just the best case scenario, and no you&#8217;ll probably never get it, but there are many different reason for that  (beyond those you listed). I guess the could sell the service based on worst case scenarios, but then you would probably feel guilty when you surpassed expectations:)</p>
<p>All in all, I agree with your opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://thewaronbullshit.com/2008/04/21/internet_throttling/#comment-1225</link>
		<author>Dan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thewaronbullshit.com/2008/04/21/internet_throttling/#comment-1225</guid>
		<description>This happens to me with Cox cable. if i go over 100kbps(!!!!!)  for a solid hour over the hours of 1am-4am my connection is almost completely destroyed. it is throttled down to 10kbps MAX.

oh, i pay for 15mpbs, but i really only get around 10 at peak hours, and 13 non-peak. they are such liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happens to me with Cox cable. if i go over 100kbps(!!!!!)  for a solid hour over the hours of 1am-4am my connection is almost completely destroyed. it is throttled down to 10kbps MAX.</p>
<p>oh, i pay for 15mpbs, but i really only get around 10 at peak hours, and 13 non-peak. they are such liars.</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
		<link>http://thewaronbullshit.com/2008/04/21/internet_throttling/#comment-1222</link>
		<author>H</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://thewaronbullshit.com/2008/04/21/internet_throttling/#comment-1222</guid>
		<description>They don't give two shits about their customers, only the money. 

They need to: 

1. Stop the false and deceptive advertising. If they can't actually give you 5mb/s down speed AT ANY TIME, regardless of how many people are using the network, then they need to tell you a more reasonable and truthful number. You will never get that fast a speed. Ever. 

2. Upgrade their infrastructure. Times are changing and they need to adapt to new bandwidth-intensive technologies. If their network can't handle it, that's THEIR fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t give two shits about their customers, only the money. </p>
<p>They need to: </p>
<p>1. Stop the false and deceptive advertising. If they can&#8217;t actually give you 5mb/s down speed AT ANY TIME, regardless of how many people are using the network, then they need to tell you a more reasonable and truthful number. You will never get that fast a speed. Ever. </p>
<p>2. Upgrade their infrastructure. Times are changing and they need to adapt to new bandwidth-intensive technologies. If their network can&#8217;t handle it, that&#8217;s THEIR fault.</p>
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