Comments on: Dear Police, stop carrying tasers (carry a big stick instead)

By: Kavan Wolfe

Kavan Wolfe — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:23:26 +0000

@Devon, in future, please READ the post before you post a comment.

By: Devon Hare

Devon Hare — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:00:58 +0000

we all whine and complain when something bad happens, but do any of you realise how times it may have work, and it has worked.
if some coke head dies from mixing the taser and coke, i feel its kinda his fault for being on the drugs and being in a situation where he had the possibility of being tasered running in the police.
it may sound slightly mean, (and i usually take the left wing point of veiw for things) but if your threatening a police officer enough for you to get tasered and you die….. you die.
but back to the first point, how times has it worked, im sure its worked a hell of a lot more times than people have died, personally if i had commited a crime would rather be tasered than hit upside the head with a baton

By: bob down

bob down — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:31:25 +0000

i rekon every policeman should carry a taser u fuk heads

By: Mr. fiveoh

Mr. fiveoh — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:45:28 +0000

Jh thank you for that support. Apparantly you are a law enforcement officer and have some clue as to what I have alluded to. I do understand, that even when used correctly, a taser can cause an individual (usually with previous heart conditions) to have severe reactions, including death. A taser, just like a baton, is a less than lethal measure taken before lethal force is applied. A taser is a tool on an officer’s waistbelt that does just want Jh has mentioned, let an officer go home at the end of the day. I do believe that some officers are too “taser happy” before using other methods of persuasion or de-escalation, and it could be a result of their training, or just an ill-guided use of a taser.

But as I’ve said before, a taser is an excellent tool and should not be disregarded as such. I’m looking for comments from either the original poster or of the others who have chimed in.

Thank you.

By: Jh

Jh — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:36:02 +0000

I’m for using any method that will let me go home at the end of the day. Tasers are a very effective tool, and I agree with Mr.fiveoh on his Feb 1st posting.

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By: Mr. fiveoh

Mr. fiveoh — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:56:08 +0000

Once again, I’ve seen the positive impact of a taser while at work the other day. An individual holding a gun, whom had already fired shots, was tased instead of shot to death. You all can keep criticizing this useful tool but I’m telling you I’ve seen these things in action time and time again with nothing but positive things to say about them. Recent studies show that there is no interruption in the heart rate of those tased. Yes it is true that a taser may have caused some individuals to go into cardiac arrest, but I’d be willing to bet that more people have choked to death on lollipops. Why not make them illegal?

By: Coffee

Coffee — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:10:28 +0000

The press is just as full of stories where tasers saved lives as well as has taken lives. I feel a lot better knowing my wife has a pink taser in her purse than to be out somewhere unarmed. Like it or not, the world has gotten crazier and having some form of self-defense ready is not a bad thing. Pink Taser For Women

By: Kavan Wolfe

Kavan Wolfe — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:01:02 +0000

I’m assuming, based on your attitude, that you’re an American. You can’t seek legal action after the fact if they put you in Guantanamo Bay. The rest of your comments have already been addressed.

@Mr. Fiveoh
My name is Kavan (ka-VAN) not Kevan. As to your comments:
1. I said that not all police get shocked in training. For all I know all the states do require Tasing. Believe it or not, other countries have police to, and in BC, Canada, for instance, not all cops get shocked in training. BTW: some US officers are now suing Taser for injuries they got from being shocked in training (http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/10577).

2. This is what they used to tell blacks when the police were beating them to death with flashlights.

3. I agree that if you steal some woman’s purse you deserve to get shocked. However, some people have been KILLED simply for not cooperating with police, including the polish guy in Vancouver Airport who couldn’t cooperate because he didn’t speak English!

4. I don’t live in a state. This article is an abridged version of a letter I sent to several government officials

5. I am not advocating disarming police. If someone pulls a weapon on you, by all means shoot him. If someone attacks you empty-handed even, I understand if you have to shoot him. If however, you tell some political science student to stop talking in a public debate, and he says he’s not finished his question, and does not threaten violence against anyone or anything, you sit down and shut up because you have no business denying him his freedom of speech.

You live in a country where the government tortures people because they MIGHT have information that MIGHT lead to the capture of someone who MIGHT be a terrorist, and then holds them indefinitely without trial. Maybe people wouldn’t resist arrest so much if they weren’t afraid of the police.

Maybe you’re right. Maybe I can’t change anything. But I’m fucking-well gonna try.

By: Mr. fiveoh

Mr. fiveoh — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 05:43:47 +0000

1) Perhaps officers in where you live have to experience the shock in training, but not everyone does.
2) When an officer is violating your rights, you should not have to cooperate (there’s this thing called free speech…)
3) If you’re well trained with a stick (and I am) you don’t have to take out a joint to stop someone
4. I talked to several officers before writing this, as well as an officer in training and a retired officer. I concluded that they did not understand the difference between uncooperative and violent.
5. Poli Sci undergrads asking intelligent questions at political debates do not generally grab guns and shoot police officers. This is real life, not a Bourne movie.

In response to Kevan Wolfe and “H”

1) Kevan, Please enlighten me on specifically which states do not require the police officers to experience the shock before they are permitted to carry them. This is simply a curiousity. I do believe that it should be REQUIRED for the shock to be experienced before an officer can carry a taser.

@ “H”, It does make quite the difference, in understanding how much and when to actually deploy the shock. It makes complete sense.

2) You should most certainly cooperate with police, it could be a simple mis understanding as to why you’re being escorted out in the first place. In any case, this can be sorted out after you are removed from the room and can discuss this with the authorities. The individual immediately started bickering with police when they cut his mic, which constitutes a disruption of a public event. At which time they were justified to escort the individual from the event. As H said, you can sort it out later simply by talking about it or by pursuing legal action.

3.) When you’re dealing with an individual running away after beating somebody down and stealing their purse, you have every right to be hit in a spot that is going to dismobilize you. That’s what happened and I don’t blame the officer I was talking about at all. All I’ll say is that the individual had it coming to him. He DESERVED it.

4.) Kavan, Please, then, take your expert analysis to the Board of municipal police officer training facility in the state in which you live. If you’re not part of the solution you’re part of the problem.

5.) This is the part here where I can see that you have not the slightest bit of experience in the field. In this job you don’t know what people think. You don’t know what actions any individual is going to commit until they decide to commit to those actions. Therefore, more power to the officer who is watching out for his own life in trying to get home to his family. It’s easy to sit around and criticize an officer, or anybody, for any action they have taken. As for me, I’d rather be judged by twelve then carried by six. As for you, sit in your office cubicle and watch your youtube videos all day, and criticize all you want. You’re not changing anything. And as for your “BOURNE MOVIE” comment, I see people trying to act like movie stars every day. It is my job to make sure those people don’t hurt themselves or anybody else during their period of stupidity. If it requires that somebody get tased, they’re getting tased.

Enjoy.