Comments on: 8 Reasons Why Freedom of Religion is Impossible http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/09/24/religiousfreedom/ Take No Prisoners Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:18:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Tom http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/09/24/religiousfreedom/#comment-874 Tom Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:16:42 +0000 http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/09/24/religiousfreedom/#comment-874 That's why I prefer "Freedom of Belief" to freedom of religion. The point of freedom of religion is that the government shouldn't control what you think. What you do is fair game, though. God saying it's okay doesn't actually make it okay. That’s why I prefer “Freedom of Belief” to freedom of religion. The point of freedom of religion is that the government shouldn’t control what you think. What you do is fair game, though. God saying it’s okay doesn’t actually make it okay.

]]> By: Matt http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/09/24/religiousfreedom/#comment-827 Matt Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:56:33 +0000 http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/09/24/religiousfreedom/#comment-827 You hit this topic spot on man, I was going to post basically what you wrote for reason #7 in the comment box but you beat me to the punch. Does the government think it is ok for those crazy FLDS mormons to carry on like they are? Is it ok for the stupid terrorists to blow people up if they say that they did it because god told them to, or some sorry excuse like that? And the reason for the high level of education and low crime rate for athiests? It is because they are the smart ones who have already seen through the lies preached to them about religion and know that it is nothing more than a practice started to explain what science now tells us all about and subsequently used in the middle ages to keep order in the low ranks, promising that if they play it straight in their rotten living conditions and work for their lord untill they croak, they will enjoy benefits in a life that nobody can possibly prove even exists. Bible stories hold no more water to me than Aesop's Fables. You hit this topic spot on man, I was going to post basically what you wrote for reason #7 in the comment box but you beat me to the punch.

Does the government think it is ok for those crazy FLDS mormons to carry on like they are? Is it ok for the stupid terrorists to blow people up if they say that they did it because god told them to, or some sorry excuse like that?

And the reason for the high level of education and low crime rate for athiests? It is because they are the smart ones who have already seen through the lies preached to them about religion and know that it is nothing more than a practice started to explain what science now tells us all about and subsequently used in the middle ages to keep order in the low ranks, promising that if they play it straight in their rotten living conditions and work for their lord untill they croak, they will enjoy benefits in a life that nobody can possibly prove even exists.

Bible stories hold no more water to me than Aesop’s Fables.

]]> By: Brett http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/09/24/religiousfreedom/#comment-825 Brett Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:06:07 +0000 http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/09/24/religiousfreedom/#comment-825 Point 4 that argues in support of points 1 through 3 is incorrect. Point 4 essentially states that FoR is an all-or-nothing proposition; that if you can't practice all parts of your religion you can't practice it at all. That's simply not true. Just because other laws trump a certain part of your religious practice does not necessarily disallow practicing all other facets of a religion. And if the act that is found illegal is integral to the religion, that is still the religion's choice to not practice in that country because a specific act is not allowed. You also make the over-reaching assumption that religion is directly connected to physical acts. There is also the mental side of religion. That is a key part of FoR that your arguments against physical practices overlooks. It is more about being allowed to think and worship mentally more than being able to sacrifice a goat or some other religious practice people might find offensive or illegal. Point 4 that argues in support of points 1 through 3 is incorrect. Point 4 essentially states that FoR is an all-or-nothing proposition; that if you can’t practice all parts of your religion you can’t practice it at all. That’s simply not true. Just because other laws trump a certain part of your religious practice does not necessarily disallow practicing all other facets of a religion.

And if the act that is found illegal is integral to the religion, that is still the religion’s choice to not practice in that country because a specific act is not allowed.

You also make the over-reaching assumption that religion is directly connected to physical acts. There is also the mental side of religion. That is a key part of FoR that your arguments against physical practices overlooks. It is more about being allowed to think and worship mentally more than being able to sacrifice a goat or some other religious practice people might find offensive or illegal.

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