Comments on: Getting the BS out of Grading http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/ Take no prisoners Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:23:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Celia http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1632 Celia Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:15:47 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1632 Jo: So it is all bullshit. We know this. Give them what they want and move on to something better… Me: THAT'S WHAT THE NAZIS WANT YOU TO THINK Jo: Wha..? Me: Godwin's Law, quityerbitchin over. Jo: So it is all bullshit. We know this. Give them what they want and move on to something better…

Me: THAT’S WHAT THE NAZIS WANT YOU TO THINK

Jo: Wha..?

Me: Godwin’s Law, quityerbitchin over.

]]> By: Cecil http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1414 Cecil Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:12:49 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1414 The wisdom of these replies is outstanding... really... I appreciate the effort Smile Bandit took to repudiate their silly arguments for this actually fair, objective blogger. Wolfe stated his purpose of creating a more objective education system, as to more fairly, accurately assess students. He said it can't be perfect, but as we do for things in science, we try to get as close as possible. Many people assume because one's lifespan contains subjective components, that our school system should be subjunctive. That is a terribly fallacy. Contrary to what people might think, the purpose of school is to have students learn material and be assessed on how well they learned it. Subjectivity impairs this process, plain and simple. School is not meant as a preparation for the rest of the life, get that preconceived notion out of your heads. School is so grossly different then what your life will probably be like afterward that it is laughable. By the way, some schools and some teachers actually are close to or becoming closer to specific ideals of a more objective school system as listed as above, not all schools are horrible. Next fallacy I have noticed: life is not fair, why should school be? Ohhhhh right! I forgot. if so much unfairness goes on after school, we should defend the unfairness in school, god forbid it becomes fair. Society might hope to achieve a more, fair world where things are less subjective, and by blindly defending our education system on the pretense that "life isn't fair" you stand by a very ignorant viewpoint. If everybody went through a fair education system, that would reflect on society - although not completely nor quickly. "Bosses can screw you over in the real world, why shouldn't they screw you over in school?" Um, maybe because we actually want to focus on learning material and making people leave high school less bitter. I have a math teacher who clearly assigns completion homework that will be on very objective quizzes, we grade the quizzes in class and go further into each concept, and then we have a test summarizing the different concepts you learned from each quiz. Three opportunities to learn the concept, each presented in an objective, mathematical manner. If he absolutely hates you, you can still get an A in that class. The wisdom of these replies is outstanding… really… I appreciate the effort Smile Bandit took to repudiate their silly arguments for this actually fair, objective blogger.

Wolfe stated his purpose of creating a more objective education system, as to more fairly, accurately assess students. He said it can’t be perfect, but as we do for things in science, we try to get as close as possible.

Many people assume because one’s lifespan contains subjective components, that our school system should be subjunctive. That is a terribly fallacy. Contrary to what people might think, the purpose of school is to have students learn material and be assessed on how well they learned it. Subjectivity impairs this process, plain and simple. School is not meant as a preparation for the rest of the life, get that preconceived notion out of your heads. School is so grossly different then what your life will probably be like afterward that it is laughable. By the way, some schools and some teachers actually are close to or becoming closer to specific ideals of a more objective school system as listed as above, not all schools are horrible.

Next fallacy I have noticed: life is not fair, why should school be?
Ohhhhh right! I forgot. if so much unfairness goes on after school, we should defend the unfairness in school, god forbid it becomes fair. Society might hope to achieve a more, fair world where things are less subjective, and by blindly defending our education system on the pretense that “life isn’t fair” you stand by a very ignorant viewpoint. If everybody went through a fair education system, that would reflect on society – although not completely nor quickly. “Bosses can screw you over in the real world, why shouldn’t they screw you over in school?” Um, maybe because we actually want to focus on learning material and making people leave high school less bitter.

I have a math teacher who clearly assigns completion homework that will be on very objective quizzes, we grade the quizzes in class and go further into each concept, and then we have a test summarizing the different concepts you learned from each quiz. Three opportunities to learn the concept, each presented in an objective, mathematical manner. If he absolutely hates you, you can still get an A in that class.

]]> By: The Smiling Bandit http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1413 The Smiling Bandit Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:56:14 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1413 And if by 'improving' you mean 'making things even more of a recursive dystopia than they currently are' then you're damn right. And if by ‘improving’ you mean ‘making things even more of a recursive dystopia than they currently are’ then you’re damn right.

]]> By: The Smiling Bandit http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1412 The Smiling Bandit Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:48:26 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1412 Did... Did you even <i>read</i> the articles? <i>CAN</i> you read the articles? I'm not sure you're literate but if you can understand this I want you to know that there is help available to you. English as a Second Language classes will help you to learn to read and write fluently in the internet's predominant language. If you live in the United Kingdom or the United States of America learning English will also drastically improve your employment prospects and allow you to experience fully the vibrant culture of your society. You don't have to pretend anymore; learn English today! Did…
Did you even read the articles?

CAN you read the articles? I’m not sure you’re literate but if you can understand this I want you to know that there is help available to you. English as a Second Language classes will help you to learn to read and write fluently in the internet’s predominant language. If you live in the United Kingdom or the United States of America learning English will also drastically improve your employment prospects and allow you to experience fully the vibrant culture of your society. You don’t have to pretend anymore; learn English today!

]]> By: The Smiling Bandit http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1411 The Smiling Bandit Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:37:53 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1411 Hmm... your grammar/spelling/content is terrible so you can't be an English teacher, your logic is disgusting, so you can't teach psychology or mathematics, you provide no evidence so you can't teach science, I doubt Physical Education teachers have much in the way of trouble when it comes to grading stress (everybody gets an A, that cool with you guys?) so no dice there, you assume the author of this post exhibits poor performance in school despite no evidence in favor of this and much evidence to the contrary, so I doubt you're a history teacher, you fail miserably at constructing an argument so not Political Science... Ok, you stumped me what do you teach? Hmm… your grammar/spelling/content is terrible so you can’t be an English teacher, your logic is disgusting, so you can’t teach psychology or mathematics, you provide no evidence so you can’t teach science, I doubt Physical Education teachers have much in the way of trouble when it comes to grading stress (everybody gets an A, that cool with you guys?) so no dice there, you assume the author of this post exhibits poor performance in school despite no evidence in favor of this and much evidence to the contrary, so I doubt you’re a history teacher, you fail miserably at constructing an argument so not Political Science…

Ok, you stumped me what do you teach?

]]> By: The Smiling Bandit http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1410 The Smiling Bandit Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:27:42 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1410 We do currently... Heard of the SAT? Plus sufficiently objective grading doesn't necessitate limited choice answers, so your complaints are more descriptive of the current societal methods rather than those proposed. We do currently…
Heard of the SAT?

Plus sufficiently objective grading doesn’t necessitate limited choice answers, so your complaints are more descriptive of the current societal methods rather than those proposed.

]]> By: The Smiling Bandit http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1409 The Smiling Bandit Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:24:32 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1409 Not being brutally murdered in a back alley is pretty important. It also has the same relevance to the topic in question as your response. Not being murdered is important. Your grades are important. This does not mean that successfully avoiding murder is an academic grading system whose constituent parts conform to the defining properties of the education system most prevalently used in the world today. Not being brutally murdered in a back alley is pretty important. It also has the same relevance to the topic in question as your response. Not being murdered is important. Your grades are important. This does not mean that successfully avoiding murder is an academic grading system whose constituent parts conform to the defining properties of the education system most prevalently used in the world today.

]]> By: The Smiling Bandit http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1408 The Smiling Bandit Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:17:48 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1408 ... Must...resist...Nazi jokes... too... easy..... …

Must…resist…Nazi jokes…

too… easy…..

]]> By: The Smiling Bandit http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1407 The Smiling Bandit Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:15:11 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1407 But..but... How else can we manufacture emotionally, psychologically, and morally destitute slave labor? D: But..but…

How else can we manufacture emotionally, psychologically, and morally destitute slave labor? D:

]]> By: The Smiling Bandit http://thewaronbullshit.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/comment-page-1/#comment-1406 The Smiling Bandit Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:07:37 +0000 http://bullshit.azuremediastudios.com/2007/07/27/bad-grades3/#comment-1406 Amen to that Amen to that

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